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Friday 14 May 2010

Find us faithfull



May God find us faithfull.

The False Christ's church and the invisible chains

Some scriptures used to manipulate the flock (some might be sheep or goats) into staying in an unholy house and to try to lure born-again believers into the devil's house (I'm not referring only to the main stream cults obvious to not be in, but all ungodly houses that have a form of godliness, but deny the power thereof and even carry the Christian titles).

2 Cor 11:13-15.

Lets look at a few commonly used to attempt to maintain control:


1. GOD IS IN CONTROL

God is bigger than: denominations, divisions, and different doctrines.
They are absolutely right, God is bigger than those things – in fact His Word is the only truth and He commands us in Jude 1:3 to earnestly contend for the faith, in Rev 18:4 to come out of her, in Rom 16:17 to mark and avoid, in Gal 1:8 (1-12) to accurse (excommunicate if possible) and 2 Tim 3:16,17.

UNITY, DIVISIONS
Rom 16:17
Now I beseech you, brethren, MARK THEM which cause DIVISIONS and OFFENCES CONTRARY to the DOCTRINE which ye have learned; and AVOID them.

Eph 4:14
That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and CARRIED ABOUT WITH EVERY WIND OF DOCTRINE, by the sleight of men (these false churches OR individual tares/false Christs/apostles/prophets/teachers), and CUNNING CRAFTINESS, whereby THEY LIE IN WAIT TO DECEIVE;

Jud 1:3
Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should EARNESTLY CONTEND FOR THE FAITH which was once delivered unto the saints.
Jud 1:4
For there are certain men CREPT IN UNAWARES, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, UNGODLY, TURNING THE GRACE OF OUR GOD INTO LASCIVIOUSNESS, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

1Ti 4:1
Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith (pretenders, false converts, goats, tares), giving heed to SEDUCING SPIRITS, and DOCTRINES OF DEVILS; Speaking lies in HYPOCRISY; having their CONSCIENCE SEARED with a hot iron;

so we learn a lot of things here - unity at any cost? is that what Rom 16:17 says? no, this verse is speaking about these false Christ's churches and the tares, notice it says CONTRARY to the sound doctrine of the bible (it does not say contrary to the doctrine of Satan, which is turning the grace of God into lasciviousness), we are warned about many different doctrines (doctrines of devils and seducing spirits - demonically influenced) by the sleight of men who are ungodly, hypocrites, seared conscience, cunning, crafty and they are just waiting to deceive you. Notice it also says they were UNINVITED (crept in unaware; the lost are evangelized and then if they become born again, God draws them to His Church rather than the local church or fellowship casting pearls before swine, in other words a true shepherd is not supposed to invite wolves or let goats in). We are also told to MARK and AVOID (that isn't to say we are not to reprove, rebuke, correct, etc 2 Tim 3:16, 17). Notice also we are told to EARNESTLY CONTEND.

here is God's final word on the matter as spoken through the Apostle Paul

I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would PERVERT the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
(Gal 1:6-8)

a severe warning to offenders
And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. Whosoever therefore shall HUMBLE himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven. And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me. But whoso shall offend one of these little ones WHICH BELIEVE IN ME, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were DROWNED IN THE DEPTH OF THE SEA. Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but WOE TO THAT MAN BY WHOM THE OFFENCE COMETH!
(Mat 18:3-7)


2. ASSEMBLIING

Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together (Heb 10:19,25, Matt 18:20, 1 Co 11:20).
Who is ourselves? Paul tells us a few verses before - born-again believers (Mark 3:31-35).
Think about that next time an ungodly minister, or anyone deceived tries to lie to you. God does not want born-again believers to be assembling at the devil's house (this could be a building or other meeting place). You don't need the devil's permission to leave his house re: blessing and releasing. Finally as an aside, notice the rest of Heb 10:25 says "but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching."

2Ti 3:13
But evil men and SEDUCERS shall wax worse and worse, DECEIVED AND BEING DECEIVED.

"For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself. But let every man prove his own work, and then shall he have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another. For every man shall bear his own burden." (Galatians 6:3-5).

Eph 5:11 And have NO FELLOWSHIP with the UNFRUITFUL WORKS OF DARKNESS, but rather REPROVE them.

1Co 10:21
Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils.


3. COVERING

You will lose it if you leave us, and the devil will eat you alive.
First of all Christ is the believer's covering (Psalm 91) (if the person is truly saved and born again), of course prayers of men of God help also (notice I said men of God), and secondly you don't want the deceitful covering of the devil, in fact you are under a curse if you remain in that house (Rev 18:4) and thirdly they must rule well (lead (edify (FEED REAL WORD OF GOD), practical needs met,reprove, correct, rebuke, Godly church discipline, protect the saints from the hirelings and wolves, not inviting them in to feast on the saints!) to be an elder, bishop etc (1 Tim 3; 5:17; Titus 1, Heb 13:17, 1 Pet 5:2-3).

Rev 18:4
And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, COME OUT OF HER, my people, that ye BE NOT PARTAKER OF HER SINS, and that ye RECEIVE NOT HER PLAGUES.

Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and WHAT COMMUNION HATH LIGHT WITH DARKNESS? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Wherefore COME OUT FROM AMONG THEM, AND BE YE SEPERATE, saith the Lord, and TOUCH NOT THE UNCLEAN THING; and I will receive you, And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.
(2Co 6:14-18)

Many don't even consider the house of fellowship they enter might be of the devil and they assume just because it has a Christian tag on it, that makes it acceptable - foolishness!

see my other teaching on Come To My House - Whose House and also Temptations of Christ and His Sufferings Through His Servants.


4. CHURCH DISCIPLINE

You need to be in a church so you can be reproved, rebuked, thrown out, etc....I can agree about church growth in a righteous house by righteous ministers (Eph 4 and verses above and others), but you don't want to be disciplined by Satan's ministers...that would be plain stupidity and if anything they would be the ones being disciplined by you to tell them to repent. Why would you need to be disicplined if you have not done anything wrong? All Satan's ministers want is your money and your slave labor.


5. YOUR PRESENCE AND YOUR GIFTS

We absolutely need your gifts (spiritual and physical), for without you the body is not complete, nor are you, you are robbing us and yourself. (1 Cor 14:12,26).-
Each believer is a member of the body of Christ (His Church), and each has a gift(s) given by the Holy Spirit which edifies (house, home, housetop, build) the body of Christ (universally or locally doesn't matter) in the way that God wills it according to His will (1 Cor 12:11, 14, 18). The body of Christ, not the devil's house and his children (the goats, hirelings, tares and false Christs/apostles/prophets, wolves etc), how welcome do you think a born-again believer's thundering rebuke to the devil's house to repent and seek God for His glory would be? Or call to holy living. What did they do to Stephen? They may very well do the same to any man of God that points the congregation to Christ.


6. BACKSLIDERS

Those that leave the church are leaving because they can't handle the truth or to start their own church, those that remain are the true believers. We call it the revolving door – backsliders come in after years of running away.”
It may very well be that the believer is leaving because there is no truth there and the believer is searching for it with all of his heart as he is admonished to by the Lord Himself, and Ezek 34 and other scriptures have been revealed to the saint by God. (John 10(vs 5 especially is being fulfilled))


7. CHURCH HOPPERS

Church hoppers are unstable believers and can't commit to a home church.
First of all God can and does reach people anywhere He wants to (yeah this is another one that false Christ's/prophets/teachers/apostles twist as well to justify their false preaching to try to get person to stay in ungodly house). A home church is not always a building or even available so sometimes believers meet in homes or on internet or even just speak on phone or write each other, and church hopping is not in the bible and if it were the house of God and it was sound doctrine and Godly messages, then yes the person hopping around might be trying to find an environment and message suitable to their flesh. 1 Tim 1:10, 2 Tim 4:3, Tit 1:9; 2:1.

Edifies (house, home, housetop, build), church (a calling out, bid, call forth).


This next one I hear very often when I am sifting a local church or exhorting their believers, and tell them my story of Ezek 34 and other scriptures exhorting the believer to come out of her.
8. YOU NEED US - YOU WERE LOST WITHOUT US -

and now you've found your home church.
Not if its not sound doctrine the believer hasn't.
God will feed the believer other ways in the meantime. Pr 3:5-7 (depart from evil, trust God). As mentioned above....it is very easy today to get fed from righteous ministers and if those are not available God will feed you directly in His Word and in many cases you become more fed than those inside churches. if you are in a true local church praise God.


9. NO CHALLENGING OF LEADERS ALLOWED

God hates criticizers, touch not mine anointed, etc.
They will say things like this to try to put fear into the person so that the preacher can say whatever they want.
I say - Study to shew thyself approved unto God (2 Tim 2:15,16), quit drinking of the devil's cup and listening to his lies. (1 Cor 10:21). Thankfully God put the fear of God into me and I challenged these false shepherds and leaders in first having me studying His Word for myself indepth to see if these things be so and then challenging the leaders directly (and since it was not righteous ministers they kept being stumped and angry also because they were being challenged when shown scriptures about how God's house was to be run)


one of the first verses the Lord spoke to me over and over again when I wasn't sure where I was going was this:
Mat 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness;

Ps 46:10.

many, and I say many do not wait on God for His timing and His way and give in to the devil's false banquet; especially those who are in a weak season or new believers. (Mat 4:8)

God is calling you out if you are born-again and in the devil's house, RUN for your life! (those of you who are not born-again get out also!)
And wait on Him. Get to know the real Jesus and purge out the leaven. Ro 12:1, 1 Co 5:7.
He may call you to be a watchman, or prophet and send you various places (even for a short time).

In Christ Jesus,
Rich

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The mystery as to why Suzanne Hinn seesk a divorce from Benny Hinn continues.

DOES THE HOLY SPIRIT PRODUCE DRUNKENNESS

EVIDENCE OF APOSTLE PETER

The first place many go to prove that the Holy Spirit produces drunkenness is in Acts 2. If they can’t prove it here were the Holy Spirit first fell they can’t get anywhere.

The verses they always point to is:
Acts 2:14-15 “…..But Peter STANDING UP WITH THE ELEVEN, lifted up his voice….For THESE ARE NOT DRUNKEN, as ye suppose, seeing it is [but] the third hour of the day.”
Because the word “drunken” is used, people then try and fill in the blanks and presume they were drunk in the Spirit. However it does not actually say that.
Acts 2: 2“ And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind and it filled all the house WHERE THEY WERE SITTING”

The disciples were sitting down when the Holy Spirit fell upon them. So you would expect them to arise from a sitting position. There is no evidence of being slain or falling over in a drunken stupor.
Acts 2 gives us two testimonies..

1 Those who mocked …………………2 The apostles Peter

Acts 2:13 “Others mocking said “These men are full of new wine.” The Greek suggests that the mockers continued to mock.

This is the proof verse people use, yet as we realise it means agreeing with the mockers.

Peters own testimony:
Acts 2:15 “For THESE ARE NOT DRUNKEN, as ye suppose, seeing it is [but] the third hour of the day”

One testimony says there were drunk and the other says they were not. Now as simple as this is may be. Which one would you expect people to believe? For those who believe in Spiritual drunkenness it turns out to be those who mocked. Once we are prepared to believe Peters testimony the whole idea of the disciples being drunk vanishes. Can we honestly believe those who mocked the Holy Spirit over the one person who loves God? Many in trying to prove that the Holy Spirit produces drunkenness are in fact calling Peter a liar. You can only believe ONE TESTIMONY.
The next proof verse is in:

Eph 5:18” And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit”

Here we see a comparison between being filled with Drink and filled with the Holy Spirit. The word for “EXCESS” is 1) an abandoned, dissolute life 2) profligacy, prodigality Av has translated this word also as RIOT OR EXCESS
Titus 1:6 “If any be blameless the husband of one wife having faithful children not accused OF RIOT or unruly” 1 Peter 1:4 Wherein they think it strange that ye run not with [them] to the same excess OF RIOT, speaking evil of [you]:

Yet the Toronto manifestation did indeed bring rioting, loss of control, abandoning themselves to whatever. So stories of people true or otherwise of being sent home in taxis because they were too drunk to drive would be a case in point. However drink will make you lose control whilst the Holy Spirit will not. How can we prove the evidence goes against any fruit which will produce drunkenness?

One of the signs which came out of the Toronto manifestation was drunkenness. The one thing many of those who became inebriated was their inability to preach the gospel. Yet in Acts 2 we see Peter delivering a gospel message without one hint of drunkenness. There was no falling over, NO silliness which we have become so accustomed too in the Toronto manifestation.

1 Tim 3:2 “A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife VIGILANT SOBER of good behaviour given to hospitality apt to teach”

The word “ SOBER “ means: 1) of a sound mind, sane, in one’s senses.2) curbing one’s desires and impulses, self-controlled, temperate

Why would the apostle give such a recommendation if drunkenness was a common experience? Yet here we see that PART OF THE QUALIFICATION FOR MINISTRY IS SOBERNESS. Now some would like to say that this refers only to alcohol rather than the Holy Spirit. But as you can see the word means to be of a SOUND MIND CURBING ONES DESIRES AND SELF CONTROL. But self control is the very thing that is missing from those who become drunk in the spirit. They actually lose control. So any minister who gets drunk is automatically disqualified from ministry.

HERE WE HAVE THE TESTIMONY OF THE MAN DELIVERED FROM DEMONS.
Mark 5:15 “And they come to Jesus, and see him that was possessed with the devil, and had the legion, sitting, and clothed, and IN HIS RIGHT MIND: and they were afraid”
It would appear that the locals were more afraid of a man who was now clothed and in his right mind. Now we do not see him falling over and doing crazy things, His speech was precise and clear. If he continued to act drunk would there be the same impact? So the fruit of this deliverence was self control The word “ RIGHT MIND” means : ) to be of sound mind a) to be in one’s right mind b) to exercise self control 1) to put a moderate estimate upon one’s self, think of one’s self soberly 2) to curb one’s passions

Gal 5:23 “Meekness, TEMPERANCE: against such there is no law”
The word TEMPERANCE is 1) self-control (the virtue of one who masters his desires and passions, esp. his sensual appetites)

What is the fruit we would expect to see the Holy Spirit manifest in the Christian life?
English Standard Version (©2001)
gentleness, SELF-CONTROL; against such things there is no law.
International Standard Version (©2008)
gentleness, and SELF-CONTROL. There is no law against such things.

If there is a lack of self control (drunkenness) would we expect this manifestation to be from the Holy Spirit? If the nature of the Holy Spirit is to bring self control and soberness, then we would not expect him to do something against his nature.

EVIDENCE OF JESUS
Then there is the evidence of Jesus. He would send another comforter. The comforter would continue the ministry Jesus left. We are given clear description as to what that ministry will entail,

John 16:8 “And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness and of judgment” verse 13 “………the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth” verse 14 “……He shall glorify me”

Now in all these attributes there is not one mention that the Holy Spirit will produce drunkenness. Nor will he do something which Jesus himself never did. Nor would the HOLY SPIRIT do anything which was unholy or cause us to do anything that will bring reproach upon God. If Jesus never made anyone drunk neither would the Holy Spirit.

EVIDENCE OF SCRIPTURE

Pro 20:1 “Wine [is] a mocker, strong drink [is] raging : and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise” If you give yourself to it foolishness. In a culture that cannot handle drink there may be more wisdom in not drinking.

Pr 31 :6 “Give STRONG DRINK UNTO HIM THAT IS READY TO PERISH, and wine unto those that be of heavy hearts” Strong drink was given to those who were about to die. But never to the living.

Pr 23: 30-35 Speaks clearly about those who overindulge and the consequences. Overindulgence is clearly not Biblical
Drunkenness is clearly frowning upon throughout scripture for the simple fact we makes fools of ourselves. When reading Proverbs 23 try and keep in mind those who have experience the Toronto. Many become addicts to the experience and keep coming back to get more of it. Now scripture does not present us a list of what drunken manifestations are OK and those that are not. Scripture says ALL DRUNKENNESS IS WRONG.

EVIDENCE OF JOHN THE BAPTIST


The testimony of John the Baptist who was filled with the Holy Spirit from his mothers womb LK 1:15 . Filled and yet not one incident of drunkenness. Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit. We have her testimony of what happened. She rejoiced and spoke. But not one mention of drunkenness.

Romans 13:13 “Let us walk honestly as in the day; not in RIOTING and DRUNKENNESS, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying

DRUNKINESS means intoxication.
RIOTING means : 1) a revel, carousala) a nocturnal and riotous procession of half drunken and frolicsome fellows who after supper parade through the streets with torches and music in honour of Bacchus or some other deity, and sing and play before houses of male and female friends; hence used generally of feasts and drinking parties that are protracted till late at night and indulge in revelry

Does this not sound similar?

EVIDENCE OF JUDGEMENT

“…Thus says the Lord: “Behold, I will fill all the inhabitants of this land…WITH DRUNKENNESS! “And I will dash them one against another…(I) will destroy them” Jer 13:13-14
Ezekiel 23:32-33 “Thus saith the Lord GOD Thou shalt drink of thy sister’s cup deep and large: thou shalt be laughed to scorn and had in derision; it containeth much. Thou shalt be FILLED WITH DRUNKENNESS AND SORROW, with the cup of astonishment and desolation with the cup of thy sister Samaria”

See also Jer 51:57 Drunkenness appears to be connected to judgement. What makes this worse, God himself will send it.
Rodney Howard Brown the so called Holy Spirit “BARTENDER”, who encouraged people to role up to Joels bar must seem foolish now
Joels prophecy which is mentioned in Acts 2 In fact does not even suggest drunkenness. We have the list to check. Prophesy… see visions…. dream dreams. But not one reference to being drunk.

Scriptue simply does not contradict its own testimony. The Holy Spirit does not go against scripture because he inspired it. We have the testimony of the Holy Spirit that drunkenness if anything is a form of judgement on the unrepentant.

out of church believers speak out

My own testimony.

Being out of church was never something planned or looked upon with any delight. But I refuse to come under worldly and unscriptural church leadership. I defiantly refuse to go from one church to another looking for that Holy Grail. I have been saved over 35 years and I have probably grown more in the last five years since coming out of church than I have in the last 30 years. God has challenged me in many ways. Fed me and encouraged me. But this has not been an easy road. I do not encourage anyone to take this step likely. If you step out it is because God has called you out. If God is in it you will be challenged. Motivated and prompted. As Elijah was fed in the wilderness so God has fed me. There is no easy answer to this problem of the out of churches. In many ways the internet has become the life line for fellowship. People from across cyberspace are connecting and sharing their experiences. In connecting there is a strengthening of the body. The lost are being found. The lonely are being encouraged. People are ministering to each other. In a crazy world cyber space is becoming the place where church is taking place. While this is not the whole solution, nor is it a permanent one, we trust it is a temporary one. What is important is that the strong come along side the weak. Uphold and strengthen. I am aware of the weakness of the internet as it’s hard to share Christian love and concern in coldness of a blogging site. Nevertheless the ability to share is becoming vital and important. If for nothing else people know they are not alone. People need to know that others are also in the same position as they are. I do not mean taking comfort in misery but in the knowledge we stand together. We are still a body and when others suffer it becomes a shared suffering. When others rejoice we can rejoice with them. Sometimes when others weep we can weep with them.

Voyage of discovery

There was an old tale told by many pastors and it was not completely false. But the idea is that if you took a coal out of the fire and left it to cool; the fire within the coal will die. Otherwise if a Christian left his church he will quickly backslide. Now there is an element of truth in this, but it is not the full truth. If God calls you out you will not die spiritually because it is God who is the fire not the building or a denomination. The Church is not a social club but a spiritual entity which derives its life from God. It is he who will keep and maintain you.
Don’t be afraid to reach out. Don’t stop reaching out. The church was never to be seen as a fortress with Ramparts up, Slings at the ready and batten down the hatches. The church is never to be envisioned as a movement under siege. We are called to move forward. We are called by the God who made the heaven and the earth. Therefore we can dare to challenge the norm. We are not called to fear but to love. We are not called to become a people who will mistrust everyone and everything. We are called to embrace a holy fear of God, but not a fear of man. We might be an oddity but we are Gods oddity. He can open door and he can shut them. Take courage he will lead you to still waters and if its spiritual raven that will feed you then ravens will be your waiters.

We are the out of Church believers but we have not gone away. We have a voice and we will speak out. If you are one let your voice also be heard.